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肯尼亚致力打造“智慧非洲”样板




肯尼亚致力打造“智慧非洲”样板

——专访肯尼亚交通、基础设施、住房和城市发展部部长詹姆斯·马查里亚(James Macharia)

文|本刊特约记者 维克多·昂严戈(VICTOR ONYANGO) 肯尼亚《民族日报》记者 翻译|周竞男

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我们正在内罗毕建造孔扎(Konza)智慧城市,旨在确保肯尼亚拥有一个综合城市信息和通信技术网络。华为公司不仅在智慧城市,而且在智能交通系统方面提供帮助

● 将合作目标转化为中非人民利益

增加出口  吸引中国投资

与中国合作 领军“智慧非洲”计划

中国和肯尼亚双方都在持续深化两国关系,旨在实现双赢。但是,肯尼亚国内不断有专家批评两国的务实合作。很多人指责肯尼亚从中国借债太多,因此正在步入“债务陷阱”——而这是肯尼亚极力想要避免的。
肯尼亚是中国发起的一带一路的积极参与者,同时,也是中非合作论坛的非方成员之一。2018年中非合作论坛北京峰会已过去八个月,肯尼亚在践行北京峰会成果方面取得哪些成效?对于未来两国合作,肯方有哪些期待?6月25日,在中非合作论坛北京峰会后续行动落实协调人会议期间,肯尼亚交通、基础设施、住房和城市发展部部长詹姆斯•马查里亚(James
Macharia)与《中国投资》记者进行了对话。

将合作目标转化为中非人民利益

《中国投资》:中非合作论坛北京峰会的落实情况如何?取得了哪些成果?遇到了哪些问题?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):肯尼亚是2018年北京峰会的主要受益国之一。北京峰会上,习近平主席宣布了未来对非洲重点实施的八大行动,其中一项就是支持中国企业参与非洲基础设施建设。当前我们正在建设非洲最大的基建项目——东非铁路网。它就是东非和中非地区历史上最长的标准轨铁路(SGR)。目前,由中国企业建设的第一阶段——内罗毕-蒙巴萨铁路已经顺利通车,我们将这个项目作为合作样板项目到各地展示。

同时,我们国家对于一带一路框架下的海上丝绸之路而言,有着重要的战略意义。一带一路在非洲的黄金区域是从东海岸的蒙巴萨开始,向西延伸,途径乌干达,经非洲大湖地区,最后到达非洲西海岸。

一带一路绝不仅仅是纸上谈兵,因为我们正在见证它的实效,现在,蒙内铁路的延长线——连接内罗毕和纳瓦沙的2A铁路段也已经完成了98%的工程,将于今年9月投入运行。关于深入非洲中心地带的基础设施项目建设第二阶段的相关讨论也在进行当中。

从另一方面来说,肯尼亚所处地区局势动荡,恐怖袭击频发,如果国家之间不携起手来,共同打击索马里青年党,那么类似的基建项目将持续受到安全威胁,这是迟早的事。

《中国投资》:您如何理解中国提出中非合作向高质量、可持续方向发展的建议?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):事实上,将中国的一带一路倡议和非洲联盟的《2063年议程》对接起来,需要双方共同努力,发挥互补性,本着双赢合作和加深人文交流的精神,拓宽发展战略的维度。同时,我赞同习主席为改善人民生活而提出的“构建人类命运共同体”的理念,所以我们的合作应该以人民为核心进行广泛的讨论,从而确保我们像大家庭一样朝着高标准国际伙伴关系前进的时候,没有人会落在后头。

也许很多人对此持不同意见,但是非洲正在积极地为自己的发展制定计划,而中国目前也正在提供对于非洲发展有益的帮助,我希望这种合作可以扩展到其他领域,比如提高生产力和高科技等领域。

《中国投资》:面对目前复杂多变的国际形势,您认为中非合作的走向如何?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):当前,很清楚的一点是全球增长的重心已经转移到亚洲,而非洲则是未来的增长极。因此在单边主义和保护主义抬头,威胁到国际合作和全球经济的当下,中非需要进一步加强伙伴关系,而且中国和其他国家应该支持、珍惜和加强多边合作的贸易文化。

我们必须维护以联合国为中心的国际标准,并肩合作,促进世界和平。

以中非合作论坛为纽带的伙伴关系是否成功,将取决于我们将合作愿景和目标转化为非中人民实实在在的利益的速度和效率。如果中非合作的影响力能够充分释放,那么它将在加强个体国家经济实力的同时,为全球增长做出贡献。

《中国投资》:您认为一带一路在促进中非合作方面发挥了什么作用?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):一带一路为非洲面临的基础设施问题提供了解决方案,而且它加速了非洲乃至全球的务实合作。所以,是时候让整个世界接纳一带一路了,因为它能给人们带来宝贵的发展。

基础设施赤字问题是非洲大陆发展持续落后的原因,而一带一路能够缩短这种差距。一带一路理念已经成熟,它的作用就是要建立一种新的世界秩序,将各国汇聚起来,增进彼此了解,藉此,基础设施赤字问题能够得到解决,发展和贸易也将欣欣向荣。

目前,一带一路已经帮助成员国打开大门,获得更多贸易机会。所以非盟应该鼓励所有非洲国家都加入进来,因为贸易能够促进国与国之间的了解。

基础设施赤字在非洲产生了负面影响,因为我们的进口多于出口,而且我们的产品价值并未得到实现。当我们与别国进行贸易的时候,关键就是要实现本国产品的价值。


增加出口  吸引中国投资

《中国投资》:肯尼亚和中国在贸易和投资方面的合作成果如何?遇到哪些挑战?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):内罗毕和北京之间保持着一种务实关系,在这种关系之下,两国贸易发展突飞猛进,不少中国公司目前正在肯尼亚进行投资。我们每周都会接待来自中国的、有意向投资肯尼亚的代表团。

在国家层面,我们也有很多合作项目,这些项目中有计划实施的,也有已经顺利完成的,这体现了中非之间兄弟般关系,在这段关系里,我们彼此重视、尊重对方。

但是,两国之间的贸易差很大。实际上,我们对中国的出口仅仅占到从中国进口额的2.4%。不过我们很高兴地注意到中国已经认识到这种失衡,并且愿意采取措施加以矫正。第一届中非经贸博览会则是中方重申其与肯尼亚和其他国家双赢伙伴关系的例证。

正因如此,肯尼亚计划在湖南长沙举办的这次博览会上主推农产品和制造业产品贸易。由此看来,肯尼亚和中国的双边关系内涵正在不断扩大。

我们对于博览会的兴趣点主要在于推动肯尼亚的园艺产品进入中国市场,从而缩小两国的贸易不平衡。想要做到这点,我们就必须提高自身产品的知名度。

我们还将利用这届博览会,展示肯尼亚的其他机会,如旅游等。

⬆2019年6月27日,首届中非经贸博览会在长沙开幕(CFP)

《中国投资》:肯尼亚如何务实推进两国高质量合作?双方如何克服困难,实现双赢?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):作为一带一路倡议的创始成员国和积极参与者,肯尼亚很自豪,而且在本国甚至整个东非地区的发展和转变方面,它与中国有着同样的愿景。

为了证明这一点,我们通过正在进行的蒙巴萨港口现代化和SGR铁路的建设,积极落实一带一路的成果。

在总统乌胡鲁·肯雅塔的领导下,肯尼亚政府在全国和地方层面都实行了一项全面的投资政策来引导投资。我们建立了一个一站式中心,使营商更加便利化,设立电子签证申请平台E-Citizen、

介绍外国投资者在肯尼亚设立公司相关法律法规等信息的平台E-Regulations、网上报税系统iTax、单一窗口电子清算系统和土地注册(Single
Window Electronic Clearing System and Land Registry)等创新式商业平台提升服务效率。

在今年4月召开的“一带一路”国际合作高峰论坛期间,肯雅塔总统曾经邀请中国投资者与肯尼亚政府和地方企业家合作,在肯尼亚多个特别经济区(EPZ)开展业务,这些特别经济区正在肯尼亚国内蓬勃发展,如蒙巴萨的东戈·昆度(Dongo
Kundu)、拉姆(Lamu)、奇苏姆(Kisumu)和纳瓦沙 (Naivasha)等。

至于说到挑战,那还是贸易赤字以及肯尼亚与中国广泛的协商问题。我们会想办法解决这个挑战,获得双赢结果。

我有信心,肯尼亚将继续寻找机会增加本国对中国的出口,从而缓解当下的贸易不平衡。

与中国合作 领军“智慧非洲”计划

《中国投资》:中国和肯尼亚未来的合作领域是哪些?为什么?在您看来,肯尼亚在发展过程中可以向中国借鉴什么样的经验?

詹姆斯•马查里亚(James Macharia):中国最新提出的一项倡议就是加强一带一路和中非合作论坛框架内合作,两者都将科技发展列为核心目标,基于此,肯尼亚将在高新技术和电动汽车领域扩大与中国的合作。

目前,我们正在内罗毕建造孔扎(Konza)智慧城市。项目旨在确保肯尼亚拥有一个综合城市信息和通信技术网络。

华为公司不仅在智慧城市,而且在其他领域,我们称之为智能交通系统方面提供帮助。他们将帮助我们解决内罗毕的交通堵塞问题,这也是我们致力改造的领域。

非洲想要推广、实现“智慧非洲”计划,而肯尼亚希望先行先试,就需要加强与中国的合作。中国已经表示有兴趣与肯尼亚开展数字基础设施建设、加快多个行业数字化升级、推进知识共享和技术转移等方面的合作。这将有助于政府、私营企业和行业伙伴打造“一个更好的全方位联通的非洲”,从而使数字经济成为连接中非的桥梁。

其实我们在很多领域都需要学习、采纳中国模式。就发展而言,没有政治稳定,就不可能有发展。中国的政治稳定,这一点我们正在学习,因为上述提及的项目都是长期的,所以,政治稳定是基础。

如果你目光短浅,国内政治环境多变,那么你就不可能成功。这就是我们聚焦中国模式的原因。新中国成立70年来,中国政治环境始终如一。所以,你能提前规划未来10年、20年、30年、40年、50年、60年的项目。对于我们国家来说也是如此。


英文版



Kenya: Engaged in Building a Model of “Smart Africa”

——Interview with Mr. James Macharia, Minister of Transport, Road, Housing and Urban Development of Kenya


By VICTOR ONYANGO  Special Correspondent of Chinainvestment, Journalist with Nation Media Group (Daily Nation) KENYA



Sino-Kenya is at its par as both sides continue to expand their ties with the aim of achieving win-win results however, the East African country has continued to receive criticisms from some experts on its allegiance to Beijing. Many argue that the country over borrows from the Asian country hence it is entering debt trap something which Kenya has dispelled in many occasions.

As an active participant of China’s multibillion infrastructure project dubbed Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), let’s find out where the country has reached with the implementation of 2018 Beijing Summit on FOCAC,this what the country’s Minister of Transport, Road, Housing and Urban Development Kenya James Macharia shared with China Investment Magazine on the sidelines of the African Coordinators of the Implementation of the Follow-up Actions of the Beijing Summit of Forum on China-Africa Cooperation.

China Investment: What is the current status of the implementation of the Beijing Summit of the China-Africa Cooperation Forum (FOCAC) and what are the results achieved and problems encountered?

James Macharia: Kenya is one of the key beneficiaries of the 2018’s Beijing Summit and through the eight initiatives proposed by President Xi Jinping, of which one is infrastructure connectivity and currently, we are implementing one of the largest infrastructure project in Africa. It is the first largest ever done in East and Central Africa that is standard gauge railway (SGR) and we have a very positive report card on it which we can present anywhere because we have successfully completed the first phase Nairobi-Mombasa with the help of Beijing.

Our country remain significant and strategic to the Maritime Silk Road under the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). The Africa’s Golden segment of the BRI starts in Mombasa on the east coast, go toward the west, and border Uganda, and then go right into what we call the Great Lakes and then to the west coast of Africa.

Hence, people worldwide needs to comprehend that BRI is not just words because for us, we are seeing it because even phase 2A which starts from Nairobi to Naivasha is 98 percent complement and will be operationalized by September this year. Discussions are also underway on the second half of the regional infrastructure going into the heartland of Africa.

On the other side, Kenya is located in a volatile region prone of terror attacks and this will continue to pose threats to these kinds of projects maybe not now but in future if countries do not join hands to fight Al-Shabaab.

China Investment: How do you understand China’s proposal for China-Africa cooperation to develop in a high quality and sustainable direction?

James Macharia: In fact, there is need of for both sides to incorporate China’s BRI and AU’s Agenda 2063 as a way of looking for complementarity in order to broaden the development strategies in line with the spirit of win-win cooperation and increase people-to-people exchanges.

Secondly, I also agree with President Xi’s idea of building a shared community with shared interests for human being in order to improve lives of our people and that is why our cooperation should remain to be people centered, extensive consultations so that no one is left behind but we move as a family through fostering high standards of global partnership.

However, many maybe opposed to this but Africa is keenly looking for what is good for itself and that is what China is providing us with at the moment and I hope this will proceed to sectors like increased productivity, technology among others.

China Investment: In the face of the complex changes in the current international situation, what do you think is the direction of China-Africa cooperation?

James Macharia: Today, it is very clear that global growth has shifted towards Asia, while Africa is the future growth pole and this why China and Africa need to propel their partnership a notch higher because the rise of unilateralism and protectionism poses a great threat to international cooperation and global economy hence China and other countries should uphold and appreciate the culture of trading reinforced by multilateral cooperation.

We need to safeguard the United Nations centered international standards as well as working together to promote peace globally.

The success of FOCAC partnership will depend on how well and fast we translate the vision and goals of the alliance into real tangibles for the citizens of Africa and China.

If it is fully utilized, the impact will not only strengthen individual country economies but also contribute to the global growth as well.

China Investment: What role do you think BRI will play in promoting China-Africa close cooperation?

James Macharia: BRI offers solutions to the infrastructural problems facing Africa as well as it accelerate practical cooperation not only to Africa but globally. Hence, time has come for the world to embrace BRI at the expense of bringing valuable development to the people.

The issue of infrastructure deficit in the continent was the reason why Africa has continued to remain behind in terms of development adding that BRI will help bridge the deficit. BRI is an idea whose time has come to create a new world order where countries come together to promote national understanding and through this, the issue of infrastructure deficit can be solved as well as development and trade will thrive.

So far, BRI has helped member countries open up for more trade opportunities, it is something which is much beneficial and should be encouraged by AU for all African countries to join because countries will create more national understandings through trade.

The infrastructure deficit has been working negatively for the continent because we take more from others without value for our goods. It is vital to get value of our goods when we trade with each other.

China Investment: What is the result of cooperation between Kenya and China in trade and investment? What difficulties have you encountered?

James Macharia: There is a pragmatic relationship between Nairobi and Beijing which has seen trade between the two countries increase tremendously with several Chinese companies investing in Kenya. Every week, we receive a delegation from China who want to invest in the country.

As a country also, we have a long list of projects which are not only scheduled for implementation but also ones which have been completed fully without any problem and this can be interpreted as a brotherhoods relation where we value and respect each other.

But the trade deficit between the two countries remain huge, in fact our export only counts for 2.4 percent of the total import from China and am happy to note that Beijing has acknowledged this imbalance and is willing to come up with measures aimed at correcting it. The First Chin-Africa Economic and Trade Expo is indeed a reaffirmation by China that its partnership with Kenya and other countries is a win-win cooperation.For that reason, am going to Changsha, Hunan Province for the Expo and it will be about trade of agricultural products and manufacturing products. And so the bilateral relations are getting much, much broader in terms of what we are doing with China.

Our interest in the Expo is to penetrate China’s market with our horticultural products so that we can bridge the current trade imbalance between Kenya and China. This is only possible if we create awareness for our produce.

We will also use the Expo as well to showcase other opportunities in Kenya such as tourism among others.

China Investment: How does Kenya pragmatically promote high quality cooperation between the two sides? How will the two sides overcome the difficulties and achieve win-win cooperation?

James Macharia: Kenya is proud to be a founding and active member of the BRI and shares a common vision with China for the development and transformation of the country and the entire East African region.

To prove this, we proactively playing its part in the delivery of BRI through the ongoing modernization of the Port of Mombasa and the construction of the SGR.

With the leadership of President Uhuru Kenyatta, the government has now adopted a comprehensive Kenya investment policy to guide investment procedures and processes, both at national and county levels. We have also established a One-Stop Centre to facilitate ease of doing business including establishing and automating service delivery through innovative business platforms, E-Citizen, E-Regulations, iTax, Single Window Electronic Clearing System and Land Registry.

Remember during the second BRF summit in April, President Kenyatta invited Chinese investors to partner with the government and local entrepreneurs in setting up businesses in the various Special Economic Zones (EPZ) whose development is underway in parts of the country such as Dongo Kundu in Mombasa, Lamu, Kisumu and Naivasha.

The challenge remains the trade deficit and with the extensive consultation between Nairobi and Beijing, we will find ways to handle this so that we achieve a win-win situation.

Am optimistic that Kenya will continue to explore any opportunity with China to increase country’s exports to the Beijing country thus reducing the existing trade imbalance.

China Investment: In what areas will China and Kenya cooperate in the future and why? In your own opinion, what kind of Chinese experience can we learn from in terms of national development?

James Macharia:  With Beijing’s latest initiative is to link together two of its BRI and the FOCAC which have both listed science and technology as their core aims, challenges of technology might be things of the past to Kenya and even Africa as a whole. In other words, Kenya will broaden its cooperation with China in areas of technology and electric cars.

We are currently building what we refer as Konza Smart City in Nairobi. The idea is to make sure we have an integrated urban information and communication technology network. And Huawei is helping us in not only smart cities, but also the areas which we call the intelligent traffic system. They have come to help solve the problems of congestion in the city of Nairobi, and they are working to develop it.

For Africa to promote and achieve its Smart Africa Initiative which Kenya spearheads, there is a need to cooperate more with China which has shown interest to strengthen the construction of digital infrastructure, accelerate the digital upgrading of various industries, and promote knowledge sharing and skills transfer.

It will help governments, private enterprises and industry partners to build “a better all-connected Africa” as a result make the digital economy a bridge connecting China and Africa.

There are many areas of learning which we have actually adopted the Chinese way of doing things. On top of development, you cannot have development without political stability. What China has is political stability, which we are learning from, because the projects we are talking about are long-term ones.

If you have short-term views and a changing political environment, you shall not succeed. That’s why we are looking at the Chinese model, whereby for 70 years they’ve been very consistent. So, you can plan your projects 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years in advance. The same thing with us. Only having five years and a changing political environment does not help.

⬆China
Investment Magazine special journalist  VICTOR ONYANGO(Right)
interviews with Mr.James Macharia(Left), Minister of Transport, Road,
Housing and Urban Development of Kenya



| 本刊特约记者 维克多·昂严戈(VICTOR ONYANGO) 肯尼亚《民族日报》记者

编辑 | 张梅

设计 | 李玉丹